Hundreds in Olympia to protest new state gun law

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OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Thousands of gun-rights advocates are rallying outside the Capitol to protest a new expanded gun background check law in Washington state.

Saturday’s protest is called the “I Will Not Comply” rally, and those attending say they will openly exchange firearms in opposition to the state’s new voter-approved universal background check law, Initiative 594.

The law, which took effect on Dec. 4, requires background checks on all sales and transfers, including private transactions and many loans and gifts. Exceptions include emergency gun transfers concerning personal safety, gifts between family members, antiques and loans for hunting.

Planned speakers at the rally include Ammon Bundy, one of the sons of Cliven Bundy, the southern Nevada rancher whose backers faced down federal agents to end a cattle roundup earlier this year.

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  • Ralph

    I hope there’s no accidents with this group of often careless gun owners. Aren’t the Bundys tax evaders illegally grazing cattle on federal land? Aren’t they criminals by ripping off the honest taxpaying citizens? Yahoo cowboys.

  • larry

    The new law was bought and paid for by rich liberals who have private security, unlike us working peons. It will not bother criminals or crazy people at all, it’s just a control freak’s dream. That being said, scaring the sheep by flashing guns around seems counterproductive. The sheep (hi Ralph) just vote for more symbolic controls when they get scared.

    • Lee Cruse

      Maybe, however, it is time that these “sheep” understand that you can push the “good guys” only so far. Also, most of these “sheep” have no idea what the law they voted for contains, just maybe if they see that they made such a large mistake that they can be taught. If not, maybe the law makers with get the message that if they want to be re-elected next time that they start making pro-gun and pro-civil rights changes to such extreme gun control laws,.

      • celestialsummer

        Since WA State’s Constitution is even stronger on individual gun rights than the federal Constitution’s 2nd Amendment, this law will be quickly taken to the courts and found to be clearly unconstitutional and counterproductive.

  • ted

    Yea,…go running around the capital waving around your legally owned guns that the government will not take away from you,….. hey wait a minute,…. what are they protesting again?

      • Lee Cruse

        Exactly the point. I-594 can not be enforced and will be used only against people that have the “wrong political view” or wrong skin color or choose to not belong to a union.

      • G. Meszaros

        ” . . . for an unconstitutional act is not a law, and can neither confer a right or immunity nor operate to supersede any existing valid law.” Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville Ry. v. Hackett 228 U.S. 559 (1913)
        “. . . an unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.” Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425, 442 (1886)

        THAT’s how. Try arguing with the US Supreme Court.

        • celestialsummer

          You’re right. Here’s further proof:
          Consider this opinion of the Supreme Court:
          The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:
          The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it.
          An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.
          Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principals follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it . . .
          A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one.
          An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law.
          Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, it is superseded thereby.
          No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.
          – Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177. (late 2nd Ed. Section 256)

    • Lee Cruse

      Not sure what your point is? I-594 will make it safer only for violent criminals and kill more innocent unarmed people. There is no redeeming feature in this silly law. Gun registration just creates a means to disarm the good guys.

  • funny

    ralph why dont we nurf the world you idiot ? Were do you get off having this idea that some how a gun law is going to protect you as if a bad guy listens to laws in the first place MORON!

  • Deborah Babbit

    Good! I’d be there if I could. That law does nothing to protect the public from criminals. They easily circumvent the law by using stolen weapons.

    • celestialsummer

      They also buy them out of the trunks of cars in back alleys from other criminals, and this law won’t stop THAT either. This law affects ONLY lawful gun owners, most cops were totally against it because they knew the truth and they even told the voters how the law would not do anything to stop criminals and would-be-criminals from obtaining guns. But too many voters just went “But, but, muh feels!” instead of actually looking at what the law would and would not do. Unfortunately that is how most voters approach the elections, anyway, basing their votes entirely on their feelings instead of doing any real research to see if what they feel is correct.

  • Darlene Talbot

    When I read the entire 594 initiative I don’t recall loans for hunting being an exception. I recall that if you are hunting with someone and standing next to them you can hand them your gun, let them take the shot and they hand it back but you can’t loan someone a gun that wants to go hunting.
    If this took effect on Dec. 4th, how was it funded? Where is the database for all the transfers? Who is managing it? Where do you apply for the 1000’s of jobs they are going to have to fill to enter all this shit in.

  • Ralph

    Gee, will Prosecutor/President of WAC, John “Pinocchio” rodabaugh show his face? Why won’t the Gun Show Bandit stand by his membership?

  • Larry DeFilippis

    Spam and Rice, you apparently underestimate the importance of those who command influence and a group can use to rally around. Bundy was responsible for the first modern day volley against what some believe is a tyrannical govt bent on depriving Americans of their rights. Bundy’s presence acts as rallying point and call to action when he speaks of his family’s experience with the govt.

      • steven

        why should he have to his family has been there before the government even laid claim to that land it lol me saying well own the air around you so now u have to pay tax for each breath you take does that sound fair not really

  • stooge

    The people have the power and the numbers. Just ignore this law and proceed as before. We need to stay armed especially in light of our open borders and the resulting crime

  • C. U. Tomarra

    Good Americans exercising their right to peacefully protest “the Government” for redress of grievances.
    I594 was created to collect sales tax on private sales not to reduce gun violence, anybody with a half a brain can figure that out.

  • Jl Fenton

    Your headline says “hundreds” but the story reads “thousands”. Even Fox doesn’t usually exaggerate that much—in a single story. As a gun owner, I think this law is way overdue

    • Ralph

      “As a gun owner” YOU think this UNCONSTITUTIONAL INITIATIVE (both state & Federallly) is overdue? What country are you a gun owner in, sir? The one WITH a Constitution that INCLUDES the 2nd Amendment? Read about the gun show bandit if you’d like to know how well the “gubmint” keeps track of their “records!” I was jailed by the president of the Washington Arms Collectors over a “STOLEN GUN” that WASN’T! It ONLY took 4 YEARS to get the return of my property. Rodabaugh even tried to stand in the way of reuniting me with my LEGAL PROPERTY. STILL treated as a FELON at WAC! You want to do paperwork? go ahead, NOT ME!

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