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SEATTLE -- A deadly shootout between two rival motorcycle clubs and police in Texas earlier this year could have an impact on the largest outlaw biker gang in Washington state.

According to a Seattle police gang detective, the Washington chapter of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club could be expected to carry out acts of retribution for a May 17 shooting outside a restaurant in Waco that left nine bikers dead and more than a hundred facing criminal charges.

Among those killed and arrested were members of the Bandidos and the Cossacks. Police believe the two outlaw biker clubs had a longstanding rivalry.

While the Cossacks do not have a presence in Washington, Bandidos MC is the state’s largest motorcycle gang with an estimated 250 members – including members of clubs that support them, like the Hombres MC.  The gang has a presence in Bellingham, Whatcomb County, King County, Tacoma, Bremerton, the Everett area, and Spokane.

“Law enforcement in general is definitely is aware of the Bandidos presence in the state of Washington,” said a Seattle police detective who tracks outlaw biker clubs. “Whenever there are public events that they’re going to be at where there’s always the potential for conflict, particularly with another motorcycle organization, we’re definitely going to have an interest in covering that.”

Dozens of Bandidos gathered in Seattle’s Ballard neighborhood in June for a monthly motorcycle meet up. Members declined to speak on camera about the shootout in Waco and what impact it may have on the club.

The detective said members here will likely try to raise money for comrades who were arrested and charged with crimes in Waco. He said they may also be asked to retaliate for the shootout in some way.

“Retaliation or retribution may not come for six months, a year, or even longer. But if they are true to their past, they will retaliate at some point,” the detective said.

“The motorcycle gang culture is a culture of violence. To be a part of that culture is to basically understand that at any time you need to be able to either defend yourself or your organization over a disrespect or a slight.

“In Washington State, the Bandidos have basically been involved in just about every type of crime you can think of,” he said. “They have been involved in murders. They’ve been involved in federal RICO violations that included trafficking firearms, narcotics, stolen property, robbery, extortion. You name it and they’ve probably done it."

One of the most high-profile cases involving Washington Bandidos came in 2005 with the arrest of the club’s national president, George Wegers.

Wegers lived, and still lives, in Bellingham.

In June 2005, the feds arrested Wegers and a number of other Bandidos in a racketeering case. The bikers were accused of extortion, witness tampering, and a host of other crimes.

Federal prosecutors argued that as the national president of the Bandidos, Wegers called the shots when it came to members engaging in criminal activity.  He was eventually sentenced to 20 months in prison after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit racketeering.

Wegers, who is no longer a member of the club, declined an interview. He did, however, grant an interview to CNN following the shootout in Texas. He said reports that Bandidos made threats against law enforcement following the melee were “pure nonsense” and claimed many of the arrests in Waco were unjustified.

The Seattle police gang detective agreed that if threats were made against law enforcement, those threats are not credible.

“It’s not that Bandidos haven’t injured police officers in the past,” he said. “I think most of the Bandidos know, and the Bandido hierarchy knows, that it would not be in their best interest to try to carry out threats against law enforcement.”

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42 comments

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  • Wallus

    The Feds should just go further in rolling up these criminals. Supposedly there are only about 3000 of these idiots across the country. Should be pretty easy to put them all in prison.

      • Mike Smith

        Cowboy you have it. Wallus, there are less than that. So let me see, if there are more MS13 in Los Angeles than 1%er bikers in all of North America, why haven’t the bikers just been rounded up? After all they are not hiding! Seems that they are not up to as much as they are reported to be. Who reports their danger to us all? Oh the LEO’s do!

  • Doug

    Why don’t you tell the WHOLE STORY ? like the coroner’s report that showed that ALL nine of the people killed in texas were killed by the POLICE ! To bad lamestream media can’t tell the truth about ANYTHING ! Wake up sheeple

    • Nicole

      Amen! They don’t tell the whole story aka the truth bcuz it’s in their best interest to be affiliates of the cops… Seattle PI Brad Wong literally lied in a report regarding the murder of my husband by 2 king county deputies . Outright liars and manipulators, both organizations. ..

    • Paul

      That’s exactly right Doug I’ve read a lot these BS police accusations they are making up crap story’s to save their asses

  • today was a good day

    what makes these biker thugs any different than any other gang?!?!? they show them on tv like they are not criminals and killers. what is going on?? i’m suret hey would not interview some other gang like this.

    • Nicole

      I know right! Just like the cops… a gang of law breaking thugs whose only interest is themselves. .. but ONE major difference being which gang it is that we hold to an expectation and standard. .. hmmm…

  • Nicole

    Always disheartening when I read the comments of the sheep… I expect the media and LEO to lie but I always hope my fellow citizenry will refuse the manipulation. .. I guess I should just continue to be grateful for the many who are smarter than the average 10 year old, as far as being easily manipulated…

    • Mike Smith

      Nicole, you may be one of the very few that really are smarter than a 10 year old. Most *adults* these days are just to lazy to get out of the chair and look something up.

  • Marc Janusz

    In the interview…”I’ve been reporting on crime in the area for a long time and I don’t remember hearing about any Bandidtos…” WTF? There was not one piece if factual evidence in the piece to base the title … where is the “Culture of violence”??? Especially in Washington State MCs???

    • Mike Smith

      Marc: the LEO’s (Law Enforcement Organizations/Officers) have a propaganda machine that spews prerecorded drivel and the lazy media just reprint it: no questions asked.

    • Mike Smith

      Whatever happened in Whatcomb County? Did you know that most of those charges were dismissed because they lacked merit? Did you know that what few charges they kept resulted in sentences that were essentially time served? Not that the people that pleaded guilty were necessarily guilty but they had been in jails and detention centers for two years waiting for the Bravo Sierra to blow itself out.

      Most importantly, my time period for review was 25 years. Hell, in 25 years one big failed. politically motivated, indictment? There have been Bandidos in Washington State for over 40 years and not one hack at FOX NEWS could come up with anything but Whatcomb County.

      The title of the essay is: “‘Culture of violence’ holds true for Washington’s largest biker gang.” A culture of violence forty years old with not one measurable incident.

      There is a new short story out on Amazon.com. It is called The Waco Texas Biker Massacre. Give it a read and see if it isn’t plausible?

  • Mike Smith

    Whatever happened in Whatcomb County? Did you know that most of those charges were dismissed because they lacked merit? Did you know that what few charges they kept resulted in sentences that were essentially time served? Not that the people that pleaded guilty were necessarily guilty but they had been in jails and detention centers for two years waiting for the Bravo Sierra to blow itself out.

    Most importantly, my time period for review was 25 years. Hell, in 25 years one big failed. politically motivated, indictment? There have been Bandidos in Washington State for over 40 years and not one hack at FOX NEWS could come up with anything but Whatcomb County.

    The title of the essay is: “‘Culture of violence’ holds true for Washington’s largest biker gang.” A culture of violence forty years old with not one measurable incident.

    There is a new short story out on Amazon.com. It is called The Waco Texas Biker Massacre. Give it a read and see if it isn’t plausible?

      • Mike Smith

        This is just another coward leaving a link to website that could give you a virus for logging on to it. This is a ghost avatar. The person that put it up deleted their Facebook profile immediately thereafter. What kind of people work tirelessly to defeat you from hearing that the LEO’s killed those bikers and wounded over 20 more? Well it sounds like the cops.

        Read the real short story on Amazon. For most people it is free. Even if you don’t have an Amazon account, someone you know does and they can lend you the short story through Amazon.

  • Dan Crocker

    Make no mistake, the Bandidos would like everyone to think they are just good ole boys who happen to like riding motorcycles. They have murder in their hearts and larceny in their blood. Most of the time, they are involved in small time crimes like thefts, assault, extortion, threats, intimidation, etc. But occasionally they get to the serious felony stage. The FBI didn’t label this outfit as a criminal gang for nothing. The Bandidos EARNED that title make no mistake about it. Those that would blow smoke up your asses and tell you how nice they are are feeding you a line of shit. Don’t buy it. I know of what I speak.

    • Bill

      Dam bo.n I’m wondering what law enforcement agency you belong to. and why doesn’t anybody ever report on what the good things that motorcyclist do. I know most of them this year on the 4th of July held a benefit for the amputee veterans out at Fort Lewis on ward 57 what did you do to help anybody out this year Dan?

      • Mike Smith

        Bill, you got it right. “bo.n” is one of those cats that just has enough strength to give a man the finger; but not enough to give a child a hand up. They are everywhere.
        To the point, the Bandidos, and other clubs, have been in Washington for over forty years and not had a news worthy incident. That mess over in Whatcomb County was Bravo Sierra. Nearly all of the charges were dismissed and the few that plead guilty did so because they had been in jail for two years. Even then most of them got time served. That cost the federal government and the State of Washington about fifteen million dollars. So what do they do today? Well the feds wire in a story from Waco, Texas, to scare people and cause troubles in the community.
        Anyone that wants to know what happened in Waco should look on Amazon for a short story “The Waco Biker Massacre.” Its free to read if you have a Prime Account. It ain’t great literature but it has a feel of first hand knowledge.
        The LEO’s set it up and it back fired and ended in tragedy. Then they tried to cover it up.

        • Bill

          thanks Mike it should of said Dan. But you got the point. hear is another article about Waco that will not make the Fox news 13 because it doesn’t it just doesn’t blacken the Bandido’s enjoy.
          Surveillance footage from one of the sixteen cameras at the Don Carlos restaurant, which sits across a parking lot from the Twin Peaks, also emerged this weekend. Numerous viewers of the video have complained that it doesn’t show much. This morning Breitbart News headlined its account of the video “Leaked Don Carlos Video Reveals Little About Waco Twin Peaks Shooting.”

          The video does have its moments though, and limited though it is it appears to document two crimes committed by police – falsifying evidence and a possible murder. The video shows that during one second, between 12:41:17 p.m. and 12:41:18 p.m., a person who is running away from the fight and who is well behind what seems to be the police line appears to get shot in the back and falls forward to the left front of a white hatchback car. He never rises during the next 85 minutes of the video.

          The most chilling sequence in the video begins at 1:20:50 p.m. Two plain clothes operators stand under the Don Carlos porch and point toward what seems to be the dead body. Six seconds later one of the operators, a gray haired man wearing a light orange shirt and a machine gun, walks toward the apparent body. He disappears briefly as he talks to a uniformed cop at about 1:21:07 p.m. Then at 1:21:35 he clearly and unmistakably places something on the ground of this crime scene. Then he quickly walks away.

          At 1:59:31 p.m. a uniformed officer walks over to the evidence planted by the plain clothes cop and marks it as evidence. Presumably, it is now part of the official case against the 177 men and women who were arrested but not “unarrested.”

          Clearly, the Waco police investigation is corrupt. Clearly, justice in Waco is corrupt. And clearly it is not enough for the Department of Justice to intervene in this case because there is probable cause to believe that multiple employees of the Department of Justice are the engineers of this mockery of the American way.

    • Scott D.

      “i know of what i speak” lol about as correct as your grammar. Last December my 16 yr old nephew was broken down on the shoulder of I-5 south of Tacoma. It was 9:00pm. A state trooper pulled up behind him, sat in his nice warm car and motioned for him to come back to his car. Evidently he didn’t want to get wet or cold. He proceeded to write him a ticket for equipment violations and then called a tow truck and drove off leaving him in a dangerous situation! A few minutes later some of there so called “criminals” happened along, they were returning from a toy run to Olympia. They stopped, actually figured out what was wrong with his car,,, went and got the parts they needed and FIXED it FREE OF CHARGE!!! Then the stayed behind him and escorted him home to make sure he made it!!! Who was doing the “protecting and serving”? Certainly NOT the cop!! But the so called criminals!!!! Thank you to the Bandidos who helped that night!!

      • Mike Smith

        Thank you. In that one moment; when you took the time to write that comment; you put a human face on every Bandido-hell every biker period-so that the rest of the world cannot turn away from them in their time of need.
        Good on you.

  • PC Shep

    What a crock of shit! The LEO’s started the shooting in this BS story. They murdered all those bikers & then locked everyone else up w/ bonds so high they couldn’t post bail. WTF Fox?!!! Get your shit straight before opening you fucked up pie holes!!

  • Mick

    Get your facts straight Fox, the cops started the massacre as well as firing 98% of the shots. It wasn’t the bikers.

  • Sadtaco

    This article was such bullshit. Little to no research and quite apparent the reporter doesn’t know jack shit about the motorcycle community. I’m so sick of the media and police departments spewing nonsense like this.

    • Aubrey Debauchery

      I agree. I’m no “biker”, but I’ve met quite a few. Generally, they’re nice guys and good boys. They’re people, just like anyone else. I know plenty of rude people who don’t wear patches. More, it’s about respect, something many people lack. Stop watching TV shows and actually talk to a motorcycle enthusiast.

  • Paul

    I am not a patch holder but I have friends that are. I was invited to one of their rallies their was 1000’s of them there and they treated me and everyone else like family there was not even 1 argument that I saw this whole thing is BS

  • Cowboy

    One, the Confederate meetings happen many times a year without problems. Two, the “rival” MC that showed up is riddled with cops. Kinda odd that they show up, uninvited, and all the sudden there is trouble where there hasn’t been before, and the cops are all over it. Not to mention the bikers that weren’t arrested, though part of the problem. Such as the leader of the “rival” MC” That’s kind of odd, don’t you think?. Three, the video/article makes assumptions about what happened in Waco where there has been nothing laid out. Playing on people’s emotions is pretty low. Kinda as low as the stuff you’re talking bad about in this.